When can I call myself 'Dr.'?

[boerhaave]

Hi,

I have recently passed the Hammerexamen. I am now applying for jobs in the UK. Is it ok to call myself 'Dr' ?

[vergessen]

Hey,

you have to write a doctoral thesis and pass it with a "rite" at least in order to gain the degree "Dr.med."

Regards,
vergessen

[Evil]

Hey,

you have to write a doctoral thesis and pass it with a "rite" at least in order to gain the degree "Dr.med."

Regards,
vergessen
Sorry, but that was not the question.
In the UK everyone who has finished his studies is called "doctor". But that's no kind of title so you do not write your name with a dr. in front.

There is no real equivalent to the German "Dr. med." in the UK.

[Relaxometrie]

Is it ok to call myself 'Dr' ?
Have you finished your doctoral thesis in Germany? If you have done so, I don't know what it would be called in English :-oopss
But if you haven't written a doctoral thesis, you are being called "M.D". If I remember it correctly, a graduate from medical school in Great Britain ist called "M.D.", without having written a doctoral thesis.

[Relaxometrie]

Ups......I just double-checked my above statement and found out, that I might be wrong. Sorry.
Maybe Fino reads this and helps us a little bit :-?

[Kyutrexx]

Hi,

I have recently passed the Hammerexamen. I am now applying for jobs in the UK. Is it ok to call myself 'Dr' ?
In the UK, you should do that.
As far as I know, most people there do not know that you have to write a paper (and get it passed) in order to call yourself "doctor".

However, you CANNOT write "Dr. John Doe" on your card.
You have to write "John Doe, M.D.".

Therefore, in spoken language, you can call yourself "doctor" (or do you want to say "I have studied medicine in Germany where you have to write a paper to get your title, but I didn't do that until now and because of the different education systems, we have problems with differentiating those two ways of using the title" every time?), but you cannot write "Dr. John Doe" (but "John Doe, M.D." instead).

[Fino]

Anyone who graduated from medical school can call himself "doctor" in the UK. If you want to point out, however, that you have completed your doctoral thesis your title would be "XY, MD" but you would still be addressed as "doctor" just like all the folks without doctoral thesis.

[Thomas24]

In the UK, unlike the US, the "M.D." is a postgraduate qualification that is not automatically conferred to you upon graduation, but usually requires some additional research as well as a thesis.

Nevertheless, most UK graduates are addressed as "doctor" by the hospital staff anyway, although they don´t formally hold the academic degree of M.D. or even Ph.D.

The funny thing about the usage in England is, that you revert to "Mr." or "Mrs." in some surgical specialties, once you progress in your career and get to a more senior level. ;-)

For e.g. young resident trainee in a surgical specialty = doctor...=> a few years later, after having passed the royal College Examinations or becoming a registrar => Mr. (mostly in England).

[Muriel]

Same in Ireland :-)