Regarding Hospitation & FA Ausbildung.

[dr_tomz]

Hi all,
I'm a Non-EU Med graduate, and have been offered a Hospitation position in Radiologie, in Niedersachsen, at the end of which I intend to work as an Assistenzarzt and continue with the Facharzt Ausbildung. The Bescheinigung for Hospitation states its for a period of 6 months. I have a few queries regarding this-

1. Can I start the procedure for the Berufserlaubnis, after I have started with the Hospitation? I mean, sending the necessary documents, translations, etc, after I have begun with the Hospitation?

2. Actually, does the Hospitation have to be for 6 months, or would 3 months suffice? When the Chefarzt had asked me for how long I intended to do it, I blurted out 6 months. Later, I felt, I probably should've said 3 months. Maybe, I could shorten it, if needed, once I start with the Hospitation. Possible?

3. Okay, the most important query. It's regarding the Visa. I'm a bit confused regarding the Visa category. I intend to apply for the Visum zur Arbeitsaufnahme, as it was stated on the page of the Visa Consulate that Praktikants/Interns need to apply to this category, too. But, isn't it a Work Permit visa? At the time of applying for the Visa, should I be possessing the Berufserlaubnis? Also, at the end of this Visa, should I be exiting the country, & re-apply for a new Visa? Or, can I continue working, on the same Visa, subject to obtaining the Assistenzarzt position, as well as the Berufserlaubnis/Approbation?
I had contacted the Consulate regarding this, but am yet to obtain a reply from them as yet.

Kindly pardon, if any of my queries sound foolish, but honestly, I have none to guide me, & I am yet to come across any Non-EU med grad doing FA Ausbildung in DL (Atleast, I dunno anybody personally). I got this far, on my own, albeit making many mistakes along the way.

Any valuable inputs/suggestions would be much appreciated.

Thanking you.

[SuperSonic]

Define "Hospitation position". When we talk about a Hospitation in German, we mean a short (few days) unremunerated get-to-know visit to the potential employer.

Re Berufserlaubnis:
Being a non-EU graduate, you might have to work a certain period of time (months to a year) under supervision before you get a licence. That depends on the verdict of the Landesgesundheitsbehörde of the Bundesland you intend to work in: http://www.bundesaerztekammer.de/page.asp?his=1.109.8949.8955 You should contact them as soon as possible if you haven't already done so!

[dranand_21]

Hi dr_tomz.

may i know which country you come from? where did you finish your Medicine studies? afterall it all depends on the base. anyways i would say or my experience says 3 months Hospitation must be sufficient. you can not simply proceed the procedure of applying for the erlaubnis, i mean one has to friest come here for Hosptaion and then apply personaly for the erlaubnis and some documents has to be provieded by your arbeitgeber.

Hope this helps,

Regards

[dr_tomz]

Hi dranand_21,
Thank you for your reply, but I'm way past that stage already. I've begun with my Residency in Deutschland, after the Hospitation, etc.

All the best to you, too.
Tschüss!!

[indiandoctor]

Hi dr_tomz,
I am in the same situation in which you were last year. I have not come across any non EU-graduate who has successfully enrolled in residency program. I have read above that you have done everything on your own, that is really great work. If possible can you help/share the information for applying for hospitation in Germany.

Thanks,
Ind-doc.

[indiandoctor]

Hi dr_anand,

I am from India and have finsihed MBBS here itself. Have you started the procedure of application?

[indiandoctor]

Hi dr_anand,
I have just read your posts in this forum, great to see that you finally succeeded in getting a residency in Germany. Which city are you working now and which branch?

[miameyakunte]

hello sir,

I am an Indian Citizen and a medical graduate from Ryazan state University, Russia and currently doing my internship in Jaslok Hospital, mumbai. I am learning german and soon will b giving A2 exam. can you help me in guiding for the berufserlaubnis and work permit procedure?


is it obligatory to work as a guest doctor for 3 months to get a berufserlaubnis or you can skip that?

Thanks and waiting for your reply

Dr. Ams