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dranand_21
30.07.2009, 07:17
HELLO ,

I would like to introduse myself 1st. My name is XYZ.I am a student of medical university, Russia. Actually i am a citizen of india and after my higher secondry education i came here for my medical studies in general medicine (M.B.B.S), So as i am a student of final year now,i am searching a university or hospital in germany; for my post graduate studies,or residency and good feture. So actually i am interested doing my post grduate,residency education in Master of surgery of Orthopedics and Trauma subject or in opthalmology, radiology in medium of ENGLISH instruction (ofcorse if possible) orelse in german language (if not possible in english), So i want all detail information about the residency education in germany. So i request to send me those all. As i am having few quiestions like Can i get admissinon in this university/hospital for post graduation or lets call residency, as above noticed subject? What will be the medium of instruction?( as i am starte to learn german language) What will be criteria of admission? What kind of document university/ hospital needs? What are the tution fees ( is it true i heard that residency is absolutly free, and i get paid descently)? What about student life? Are there any yet indian students enrolled? What about dermatory and living expance? Please tell me about the climet? Can i enroll by my self in residency corse, please will just send me some emails or related websites of hospital where they allows non EUropian student? How and all i have to being ready if i deside to continue the study in this university? which and all exams exactly i have to give, as i directed that i have to pass the german language exam ( is that toffel DAF exam? if not then please specify me) and what about state medical exam?? please have in mind that i am a russian medical diploma holder, but citizen of india. is there any your personal conact no then please leave for me because i realy need to talk to you, i am really looking forword for this...!in this whole my case, i need to know that as i mentioned above about i am a non european citizen (indian) and studing in non-eropean country (russia) so my medical diploma will be russian. that is doctor of medicine (MD) i need to come back to indian and proove my indian registration of prctice or ts really not needed to do that, just from russia i can go to germany?? if just from russia i can go to germany then what will be the procedure? i need to take test daf?? i can under go test daf here itself in russia?? i just dont now anything related the system t get enter in residency program in germany just from beging can you explain me please!? (perticullarly case like me) is there any chances to get enter? if yes then how many percent you thin for that (your pesonal opinion please) what about scolarships and any other benifits.
I am eagarly waiting for your reply so please do send me the answer.

Thanking of you,
XYZ

alley_cat75
30.07.2009, 12:39
What about improving your German skills? That would be a good point of departure... ;-)

dranand_21
30.07.2009, 14:08
yes, of corse i am learning german! and my positive point is i still have 10 month in hand. so i think that wont be any more problem for me, but what about rest of doubts? :-heul

jemand
30.07.2009, 22:34
we have enough medical doctors in germany. we don't need you.

good luck in Russia!

netfinder
30.07.2009, 22:40
we have enough medical doctors in germany. we don't need you.

good luck in Russia!

der wohl dümmste Kommentar des Abends...

Hoppla-Daisy
30.07.2009, 22:46
I translate your comment, netfinder, if you don't mind ;-):

Netfinder thinks that jemand's comment is the most stupid comment of the whole evening

And I must say that I fully agree!!!

Coxy-Baby
30.07.2009, 22:59
@jemand: I think it would be an advantage for all of us, if dranad 21 would replace you at your job (i'm not sure u already finished your exam or participated the evolution...)

@dranand: To speak german in germany is more than imported, because there not so many
people who will teach you in english and especially the patients aren't so good in (medical) english.I'm not sure whether your exam will be accepted in germany....

BetterCallSaul
31.07.2009, 00:30
der wohl dümmste Kommentar des Abends...

definitivst.

Ehemaliger User 20130505
31.07.2009, 06:51
To speak german in germany is more than imported, And this is the most funny mistake of the day. ;-)

Peter_1
31.07.2009, 07:38
Dear Anand,


please look at this link:
http://www.bundesaerztekammer.de/page.asp?his=1.109.112.3313
it shows a short summary of how to get registrated in Germany. For non EU citizens it is not so easy to get a provisional medical license, first of all you will have to get a work permission in germany which is not so easy to get.

Good luck,

Peter

dranand_21
31.07.2009, 08:08
we have enough medical doctors in germany. we don't need you.

good luck in Russia!

so funny dear! and my Qestion is not about you have enough doctor's or not?! but somthing else! thanx to all other guy's who support me. i think you are from europe and devolope country and i think you must be having some good culture, but here is gret example of criticism as well recicisum! come on grow up! now we all are the same and we can help each other and make helthy not only nation but world! anyway...thanks answer! and please have look you have got lot of vaccancy and very shortage of doctor's.

dranand_21
31.07.2009, 09:16
Hello peter,
1st of all very much thank you for support and answer! i have already visited this page and done reserch on german medical rsidency a lot u can say! but see what are my b basic Doubt is or my Question is is there any possibility to get the place in german medical residency for case like me? i am a russian medical diploma holder and i am a indian national. if yes then what will be the way? how and all one should prepare? and where to start ? what can be the plan?

dranand_21
02.08.2009, 08:10
@jemand: I think it would be an advantage for all of us, if dranad 21 would replace you at your job (i'm not sure u already finished your exam or participated the evolution...)

@dranand: To speak german in germany is more than imported, because there not so many
people who will teach you in english and especially the patients aren't so good in (medical) english.I'm not sure whether your exam will be accepted in germany....

!st of thank you very much, i want more info about all this proceedure so will you just let me know ur contact number and time when can i call u. so that i will call u!? thank you

Peter_1
03.08.2009, 07:52
Dear Anand,

you should first of all contact the authorities who can help you with your problem (for example the german employment bureau has a special phone-nr for non EU applicants: ZAV:+ 49 228 713 1313). To get work in Germany for non EU citizens is a complex problem an it is even more complex in medical jobs (because you will need a work permission and a german medical license). So first of all you should contact the german authorities for the general procedures, maybe after this someone can help you with some particular problem.

greetings,

Peter

dranand_21
04.08.2009, 08:43
[QUOTE=Peter_1;800583]Dear Anand,
thank you so much for contact, wil just let me know (if you know) as being the non eu medical diploma holder and non-eu national can i do my internship in germany? as soon my education get over i want to do the internship in germany, in that my point is by the cause of internship i can get inside in germany as well in german helth system, i will get 1 year time to look practically for job and specialization as well i get chance t learn german language in germany! what you say? or i ask to all of you what anyone think on this?

Peter_1
04.08.2009, 10:57
Dear Anand,

I think You won't find sufficiant answers in the internet. You will have to contact the german authorities for your questions. Normally Non EU diploma holders don't get a german medical license (called "Approbation"), they have to pass an exam (called: "Gleichwertigkeitsprüfung für ausländische Ärzte") after having done an internship in germany, then they get a kind of a non permanent medical license (called "Berufserlaubnis"). Being holder of the Berufserlaubnis You are able to work as a doctor in a german hospital. The applications for Non EU diploma holders are proved by the health authorities of the federal states (for Example "Bayern"). Nevertheless the problem for a non EU resident will be to get a work- and residency permission for germany before! The regulations are complex and I would strongly advice that You will contact the german employment bureau for Your questions. Sometimes it helps if You already have contact to an employer in germany (for example an university hospital) who leads You through the "bureaucratic jungle".
Maybe in this forum:
http://www.medi-learn.de/medizinstudium/foren/forumdisplay.php?f=43 someone might help You furthermore.

dranand_21
04.08.2009, 16:49
Dear peter!
Thanks alot for the most impotent help and a contact numbe. by the way i am so sorry and i did not even ask you about your name and proffesion. by the way i am so scared for medical residency in germany! I dont know i will be getting that place or not!? but anyway can you just tell me will you help me for this? if there will any condition from you i am ready except. i will be looking for positive anr from you! thank you!

Peter_1
05.08.2009, 09:01
Dear Anand,

I am sorry I can only give the advice to contact the german authorities with your questions. I don't know more about the regulations for Non EU Citizens than I already wrote. Maybe someone who successfully made his way as a Non EU Citizen in germany can help better, but anyway You should inform yourself about the regulations at the german employment bureau. I think there is no other way, You won't find correct answers without asking the proper authorities.

Greetings,

Peter

dranand_21
05.08.2009, 17:27
Dear Peter,
It's ok. And i was just looking for all options what i have in my hand, So when i ask you something it was also the part of that.And yes, what you have provieded me all the contact and details on that i am establishing contacts and getting all the information. So thank you again. And if still there is something to tell me, Which will help me, Then i am waiting for your answer with lot of hope. Thank you very much. i am happy with all of your answer and help.

I am sorry I can only give the advice to contact the german authorities with your questions. I don't know more about the regulations for Non EU Citizens than I already wrote. Maybe someone who successfully made his way as a Non EU Citizen in germany can help better, but anyway You should inform yourself about the regulations at the german employment bureau. I think there is no other way, You won't find correct answers without asking the proper authorities.

Greetings,

Peter[/QUOTE]

Coxy-Baby
05.08.2009, 19:02
A first small step on your way to a german residency could be:improve your german so that we can speak/write in german.Niemand wird nen Assi ohne halbwegs passable Deutschkenntnisse einstellen.